|
|
Post by *Sammə A Wamm* the Plush Goat on Feb 17, 2021 19:49:07 GMT
Sam fandom characters up to the plate:- - Sam - Eq - Denzel - Charlie - Netanye League characters:- Dorian Gray (immortal with caveat) Allan Quartermain (general badassery) Captain Nemo (martial arts + technology) Mina Harker (vampire stuff) Henry Jekyll (allegorical beastliness) Rodney Skinner (invisible) Tom Sawyer (lil wannabe baby badass with a shoot shoot fetish) and then a bunch of weird stuff we'll get to after the others. as usual we run through scene for scene in the movie posing ideas as to how things could be different. so thanks to copyright laws we can't actually share the footage itself though i'll leave a rough time stamp for the scenes and a description because a lot of the action kinda overlaps in this movie and i want us to get a fair shot at each bit before moving on. using the comics or original novels for these scenes runs into quite a lot of problems so lets try to stick to the movie alone for now and if people have an interest in taking it further afterwards then we can go deeper into it. i know the movie relies on a lot of show don't tell suspension of disbelief though that's the briefest thing we have to work with and i'm sure you guys can fill the appropriate holes. so as a preliminary let's  straight up pit them in 1 on 1 to get how the cards will be dealt in the scenes to follow. |
|
|
|
Post by (Red) Ashlaou🦀DOES on Feb 17, 2021 20:17:35 GMT
okay Dorian can't die though he doesn't really have anything else. Edward gets stronk and that's it. Rod is absolutely useless in a fight when you really think about it. Tom is the shoot shoot. Nemo and Mina are MASSIVELY under utilised. Allan is a Drako wannabe. |
|
|
|
Post by (Org) Orange🐁Olive on Feb 18, 2021 4:19:26 GMT
In reverse order coz. Netanye - she's not  actly bulletproof though technically guns can't kill her. she has the advantage against Sawyer and Quartermain in that they can't 'stop' her, though they technically can incapacitate her with enough bullets in the right places. being invisible doesn't really work against nematodes because they can sense vibrations so she can kinda tell where Skinner is at any time. he doesn't have anything other than that to use so he's kinda doomed from the start. Hide and Gray only use brute force so they're going to knock Netanye around like a pinata without doing any real damage. Unfortunately they're both bulletproof too so Netanye can't hurt them either. Harker like most vampires has an array of skills that are kinda useless against nematodes. If we're assuming it's a curse and NOT a virus then Netanye can't cure Harker's vampirism, though that depends on whether we're using movie canon or book canon. She's yano also immortal so she's kinda bulletproof too. Nemo actually poses the biggest threat here. His sword can definitely put Netanye out of action for a long time. Not only that though he's the only guy with explosives. |
|
|
|
Post by (Org) Orange🐁Olive on Feb 18, 2021 4:35:03 GMT
Charlie - Charlie's not bulletproof and there's 2 gun guys that are pretty  here. I mean, he won't die though it's not like he's that difficult to stop for a while. Being invisible does put Skinner at an advantage though he can't do much damage to Charlie without having a weapon that makes him kinda visible and Charlie has a sword so it's an unfair fight really. Hide and Gray can probably launch Charlie and they can't actly be cut. Charlie has a big disadvantage here though i don't think they'd be able to 'kill' him here. Harker's gonna probably try to kill Charlie by drinking his blood and we all know what's gonna happen there. I would LOVE to see Charlie face off Nemo. That fight would be epic. |
|
|
|
Post by (Org) Orange🐁Olive on Feb 18, 2021 4:39:49 GMT
Denzel - Denzel's a lover, not a fighter. He can be shot easy. Denzel's empathy means he kinda knows where Skinner is without needing to see him. So this is basically a drunken brawl. Hide and Gray are gonna smash Denzel's bones to pieces. Harker basically gonna drain him dry. Nemo gonna make a mess of Denzel. |
|
|
|
Post by (Org) Orange🐁Olive on Feb 18, 2021 4:48:16 GMT
Eq - Well he's bulletproof and he uses ranged weapons so Sawyer and Quartermain better watch out. The invisible guy kinda has an advantage because the only strategy Eq has here is to blow everything up and hope he hits Skinner. Hide and Gray will smash Eq to bits though not like that ever stopped him. I'd like to test how durable their endurance is next to an infinite supply of bombs. What the hell is Harker gonna do here? Drink his oil? I'm sure all those bombs will make a huge mess of the bats. Nemo can probably mess Eq up pretty bad. He probably also has a way of stopping Eq for too with all his technical knowhow. |
|
|
|
Post by (Org) Orange🐁Olive on Feb 18, 2021 4:59:50 GMT
and now the big one.
Sam
-
He's bulletproof though then again he has to get close to actually hurt Sawyer or Quartermain.
Sawyer will definitely keep his distance so Sam's gonna find that a tough fight, though Quartermain's probably gonna change tack to fists and Sam's gonna stop him pretty easily.
Skinner again being invisible doesn't mean he can avoid being detected by vibrations.
Skinner can't use a weapon without being seen so if he tries to use his fists like he would then Sam wins again.
Hide uses fists so he's an instant knockout though Gray uses a cane so he might have a fair fight with Sam.
Except of course Sam's a canon brancher so he's gonna know about the picture and use it straight away at the start of the fight.
Again Harker being a vampire means she's pretty screwed in general in this fight.
Then again trying to catch a swarm of swirling bats is not gonna be easy for Sam.
Nemo can incapacitate Sam pretty easy I'm sure.
|
|
|
|
Post by (Org) Orange🐁Olive on Feb 18, 2021 5:08:47 GMT
so the match ups with the best results in this fight are: Eq > Sawyer & Quartermain Well Eq's bulletproof and he uses ranged weapons so Sawyer and Quartermain better watch out. Denzel > Skinner Denzel's empathy means he kinda knows where Skinner is without needing to see him. So this is basically a drunken brawl. Sam > Hide & Gray Hide uses fists so he's an instant knockout though Gray uses a cane so he might have a fair fight with Sam. Except of course Sam's a canon brancher so he's gonna know about the picture and use it straight away at the start of the fight. Netanye > Harker Harker like most vampires has an array of skills that are kinda useless against nematodes. If we're assuming it's a curse and NOT a virus then Netanye can't cure Harker's vampirism, though that depends on whether we're using movie canon or book canon. She's yano also immortal so she's kinda bulletproof too. Charlie > Nemo I would LOVE to see Charlie face off Nemo. That fight would be epic. |
|
|
|
Post by (Org) Orange🐁Olive on Feb 18, 2021 5:16:22 GMT
the match ups with the worst outcomes are: Sam < Sawyer & Quartermain He's bulletproof though then again he has to get close to actually hurt Sawyer or Quartermain. Sawyer will definitely keep his distance so Sam's gonna find that a tough fight, though Quartermain's probably gonna change tack to fists and Sam's gonna stop him pretty easily. Eq < Skinner The invisible guy kinda has an advantage because the only strategy Eq has here is to blow everything up and hope he hits Skinner. Charlie < Hide & Gray Hide and Gray can probably launch Charlie and they can't actly be cut. Charlie has a big disadvantage here though i don't think they'd be able to 'kill' him here. Denzel < Harker Harker basically gonna drain him dry. Netanye < Nemo
Nemo actually poses the biggest threat here. His sword can definitely put Netanye out of action for a long time. Not only that though he's the only guy with explosives. |
|
|
|
Post by (Gry) Sam-Big-Gull - ME🍲U on Feb 18, 2021 6:31:30 GMT
Denzel would probably know about the picture too
|
|
straight up pit them in 1 on 1 to get how the cards will be dealt in the scenes to follow.
actly bulletproof though technically guns can't kill her.
here.
U